Monday, May 11, 2009

Does anyone have any idea what ovate and pinnate leaves are?

The trumpet flower is supposed to have ovate and pinnate leaves, but unfortunately I'm very vague on the meanings. Web sites with pictures would be nice.

Does anyone have any idea what ovate and pinnate leaves are?
Excellent photos of all parts of the plant here:





http://www.missouriplants.com/Redopp/Cam...





If you need specimens, I can send you a few truckloads. These things grow a little too well in some places, if you plant them to attract hummingbirds you'll have a lot of work on your hands keeping them from taking over everything. When I bought the house I'm in now (Missouri), I had one with a 8" thick stalk that had made it about 30 feet up a walnut tree. Insects similar to chinch bugs killed it off but didn't seem to harm anything but the older trumpet creepers, I'm actually a little relieved the vines are gone. They drop a lot of seeds, and half of my summer is spent trying to keep the rapid growing sprouts from covering buildings and such. The aerial roots tend to wedge under trim and pry it loose, too.
Reply:Ovate refers to the shape of each leaflet. The trumpet flower (also called trumpet vine and trumpet creeper if you are studying Campsis radicans) has compound leaves - big fern-looking leaves made of smaller leaflets. For ovate, think "oval", but these have teeth along the sides and are pointed at the tip.





Pinnate means that the leaflets of the compound leaf are arranged on the two sides of a center rib - sticking out on both sides of that rib like a fern leaf. If all the leaflets came out from one spot like a four-leaf clover, it would be called palmate.





Leaf picture here: http://www.hiltonpond.org/ThisWeek010822...
Reply:Pinnate means featherlike; having leaflets on each side of a common axis. The one that comes to mind is a fern.





Ovate - think oval, it means egg-shaped with the broader end at the base. The trumpet vine is one, another might be the fig tree or a beech tree.
Reply:1) OVATE LEAF == A leaf or a leaflet is said to be ovate if its general outline or shape is like that of an egg or oval.





Click the links below to see it-


http://www.ppdl.purdue.edu/PPDL/images/b...


http://www.pssc.ttu.edu/pss1411cd/IMAGES...





2) PINNATE LEAF == Alef is said to be pinnate when


i) It is a compound leaf i.e. entire leaf is divided in to many, small , independent segments called leaflets or pinnae.





And





ii) These pinnae are arranged on the main axis at different points along its length.





Let us see the links and understand it better





http://www.hainaultforest.co.uk/Leaf%20e...


In the above photo there are FIVE leaflets of a single leaf , two paired and one solitary ( It is a rose leaf)





http://www.hainaultforest.co.uk/Leaf%20A...


In this , ther are nine leaflets , four paired and one single.





http://img.tfd.com/dict/E4/6B325-pinnate...








3) Trupet flower is a general term and covers a large number of plants / flowers . They are widely different from each other .





Only common factor is their trumpet shaped flowers.


http://www.nal.usda.gov/curtis/images/86...
Reply:pinnate means "feather like"


ovate means means shaped like an egg.


See the links below....there are tons of different leaf shape names (I had a lot of problems describing leaves for my thesis!@#!#)


Luckily these are just general outline shapes (you get words describing the tips, bases, or 2-3 or MORE! words combined to describe a leaf eg obvate to obovate with trucated base etc!!


Good luck


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